But also, at first, I felt like it was really freeing. I really didn’t know what I was doing at all. It’s the first thing that’s longer than four pages that I’ve ever done. When going from strips to a full-length graphic novel, was there anything you had to learn about or do differently? Vineberg: You’ve done a lot of short pieces, but the story arc gets to expand a lot in IN. Yeah, there’s similarities between all of them. And then cross it off and draw the animals and it’s immediately a more relatable cartoon. There’s a pretty much surefire well of humor when doing my New Yorker cartoons, to just find similarities between behavior with animals and humans. I mean, what other kingdom would we be in… Protozoa? Fungi? And particularly now, while we’re all locked away, it does feel like we’re also caged. McPhail: Well, we definitely are animals. Vineberg: Does that play into your view of humans at all? As an animal? I don’t know if it’s because I like drawing the animals for the cartoons, or because I’m retroactively trying to make my degree more worthwhile after the fact, so I can say, “Look, I’ve made use of it, because now they’re in the New Yorker.” But there’s a lot in my New Yorker cartoons. There’s not too many animals in the graphic novel, I don’t think. But I spent the entire time drawing my lectures and doodling in my notes and stuff. Will McPhail: Yeah, in Glasgow, actually, I studied zoology. Kerry Vineberg: I read a few other interviews with you and learned that you studied zoology! This interview was edited for length and clarity. Consider yourself warned: There are a few mild spoilers for IN’s content below.

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